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10-08-2005, 01:23 PM
About Reference Systems: Vacuum and Space.
From times of Newton in classical physics the principle worked:
" Until the reference system is specified, any conversations on movement
are completely deprived the contents."
Newton, first of all physicists realized, what a main role a reference system has.
The choice of reference system is a central, basic question at the commencement of any task
But the founders of the “Big Bang” theory have forgotten this.
Nowhere do they write in what reference system the "Big Bang" took place,
and in what reference system the substance of the "single point " is distributed.
And consequently, the theory of the "Big Bang" is constructed on a sand.
* * *
The astronomers have established the fact of galaxy rotation
but nobody speaks of the reference system in which they rotate.
Without the inclusion of a reference system the rotation of galaxies
is deprived of any content. To avoid this problem, write:
Each Galaxy is surrounded by an "accompanying reference system",
and the "accompanying reference system" is extended.
/ The Physics of Space. is a small Soviet encyclopedia published in 1986./
This is a joke!
For example, I am at home and I am surrounded by an "accompanying reference system";
my house. Then I go to work surrounded by an "accompanying reference system";
And when I have arrived on the job, I am surrounded by an
"accompanying reference system", the university.
But if we do not understand that we work in the reference system of the Earth,
and the astronomers do not understand in what reference system
the billions of galaxies rotate, any statement is meaningless.
Only when the reference system is specified, then the words "galaxies rotate"
and "Big Bang" make sense.
The first problem in the discussion of the laws of motion is to answer the question,
"In what reference system does this motion occur?
In what reference system are the laws of motion formulated?"
This question is most unpleasant for the amateurs in abstract reasoning and conjecture.
God teaches man to think particularly and logically.
The Devil teaches man to speak with beautiful, general and abstract phrases.
By such method he easily hides the truth from the people.
* * *
The main paradox in physics is not understanding reference systems.
Einstein and Infeld wrote:
“We have the laws, but are not aware what the body of reference system they belong to,
and all our physical construction appears erected on sand”.
They are right. The essence is that now there is no precise border
which divides two different frame of reference:
1) System of Vacuum and
2) Gravitational frame of reference.
Now these two systems are considered as though they were common.
But they are completely different systems.
There, where there is a vacuum - there is no gravitation.
In the vacuum, one set of laws - the laws of the vacuum work
( not taking into account external influences).
Where there is gravitation, there is no vacuum.
In a gravitational reference system
a complete set of other laws apply.
These laws are connected and take into account external influences.
How these two systems cooperate between themselves is explained on the following site.
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10-08-2005, 01:28 PM
Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, all matter
(all elementary particles and all quarks and
their girlfriends- antiparticles and antiquarks,
all kinds of waves: electromagnetic, gravitational,
muons… gluons field ….. etc.) – was assembled in a “single point”.
It is interesting to think about what had surrounded the “single point”.
But why does everyone speak about EMPTINESS- NOTHING in
common phrases rather than in specific, concrete terms?
I wonder why nobody has written down this EMPTINESS- NOTHING in
the form of a physical formula ? You see, every schoolboy knows that
is possible to express the EMPTINESS- NOTHING condition
by the formula T=0K.
* * *
Once there was a “Big Bang”.
But in what space had the Big Bang taken place
and in what space was the matter of the Big Bang distributed?
Not in T=0K?
It is clear, that there is only EMPTINESS, NOTHING, in T=0K.
Now consider that the Universe, as an absolute frame of reference is
in a condition of T = 2,7K (rests in relic radiation of the Big Bang ).
But, the relic radiation is extended and in the future will change and decrease.
What temperature can this radiation reach?
Hence, if we go into the past or into the present or into the future,
we can not escape from EMPTINESS- NOTHING .
Everyone knows about the “singular point”, but nobody knows that it is
EMPTINESS- NOTHING! To understand it, it is necessary to ask a question:
What geometric and physical parameters can particles have in T=0K?
Can they have a volume?
Then they must have the geometrical form of a flat circle: C/D =p= 3,14.
But what these particles do ?
They are in a condition of rest: h = 0. So, maybe they are dead?
In order to answer of this question, it is necessary to more clearly understand
* * *
Has this EMPTINESS- NOTHING a border? No! It has no borders.
EMPTINESS- NOTHING is indefinite. Let's identify it by the formula: T=0K = ∞
And what about time in the EMPTINESS- NOTHING ?
Independent time is absent.
Time in EMPTINESS- NOTHING is indissolubly merged with infinite space.
But you see, such space is described by Einstein in Special Relativity Theory.
In SRT, space also has a negative characteristic and there also,
time is indissolubly merged with space.
Only in SRT, this EMPTINESS- NOTHING has another name:
Negative four-dimensional (Minkowski) space.
Then it is possible to conclude that SRT describes the behaviour
of the circle-particles in T=0K.
* * *
In agreement with SRT, these circle-particles can be in two conditions of movement:
To fly rectilinearly with a speed of c =1.
In this kind of movement , it is named a “quantum of light”, ”photon”.
2) To rotate around its own diameter and then its form and
physical parameters will change according to the Lorentz transformation.
In this kind of movement, it is named the “electron”.
* * *
But what is the reason for the movement of circle-particles?
In the EMPTINESS- NOTHING, nothing can influence the condition of rest.
Quantum theory gives the answer to this question.
1) The rectilinear movement of the circle-particles depends
on Planck's spin :h = 1.
2) The rotary movement of the circle-particles depends on the spin
of Goudsmit-Uhlenbeck: ħ = h / 2p.
* * *
Very strange particles surround the "singular point ".
These circle-particles can be in three conditions:
1) h = 0 ,
2) h = 1,
3) ) ħ = h / 2p
And they can independently decide what action to take.
So it can work only with particles that have their own consciousness,
which is not static but can develop.
The development of consciousness scale goes " from vague wishes up to a clear thought ".
* * *
"If consciousness is in fact defined (and different) at every moment of time,
it should also be related to points in space:
the truly subjective observer system should be related to space-time points."
from "Quantum Theory and Time Asymmetry", Zeh (1979).
11-12-2005, 04:05 AM
Two Views of the Vacuum
In modern science there are two mutually exclusive points of view
on the behaviour of particles in a Vacuum. One point of view is
the position of classical physics which says that:
In the vacuum at T=0K any movement of a particle stops.
And if in the Empire of Cold there is no movement, it is a dead empire.
But another point of view completely rejects this formulation.
This point of view is expressed in the quantum theory. In 1911, M. Planck
stated that energy does not become zero at the approach T=0K.
He declared this on the 1st Solvay congress. So " Energy at T=0K" became
the main problem in physics because " Physics is first of all the vacuum".
Gradually it began to appear that Vacuum at T=0K is not empty dead space.
There live the "virtual" particles. These particles originally have negative and
imaginary mass, and then make a virtual transition » to positive mass,
becoming real particles. But the apparently mystical "virtual particles"
as they make "virtual transitions". explains little.
Let's rethink these "virtual" particles. Let's ask a question:
What is the geometrical form of "virtual" particles in the Vacuum at T=0K?
The answer is:
According to the laws of physics (J. Charles, Gay-Lussac, V. Nernst, A. Einstein )
particles in a Vacuum cannot have volume and consequently should be flat figures.
This means, particles have the geometrical form of a circle, as from all flat figures
the circle has the most optimum form: C/D=pi.
What are these "virtual" circles in the vacuum?
The answer is given in the theory of radiation of absolute black bodies.
The theory considers an area of the space which are in absolute thermal balance.
It is possible only at T=0K. But it is known, that such a condition is a
"thermal death " and is not observed in nature. Therefore Planck, studying this area,
came to the conclusion that condition T=0K has changed. In this space there should be
a radiation of a quantum of light, possessing an internal impulse h=Et=1.
So, « the virtual circle » is transformed to quantum of light.
This quantum of light has an impulse h=Et=1 and travels with constant speed, c=1.
From this assumption Quantum theory was born.
Therefore the Quantum theory is a theory only about a quantum of light and its various transformations. And classical theory considers all other particles.
These particles have mass much greater than a quantum of light and
move with much smaller speeds. If we understand the difference between
a quantum of light and all other particles,
then all contradictions in the physics disappear, and all of physics becomes a
harmoniously integral science.
11-15-2005, 01:08 AM
The main problem in Physics is an opinion that the Universe only one.
From this opinion there are all paradoxes in physics.
Einstein and Infeld wrote:
“We have the laws, but are not aware what the body of reference system
they belong to, and all our physical construction appears erected on sand”.
They are right.
Essence in that now there is no precise border which divides two different
frame of reference:
1) System of Vacuum and
2) Gravitational frame of reference .
Now is consider, that these two systems as though common.
But it is completely different systems.
There, where there is a Vacuum - there is no Gravitation.
There, where there is a Gravitation - there is no Vacuum.
And how these two systems cooperate among themselves,
it is telling on a site.
11-15-2005, 08:21 AM
In general I concur with all your thoughts; especially concerning the absence of reference systems and the ludicrous Big Bang. With the proper reference systems the super galactic clusters would extend the age of the Universe to exponents of 13 billion, or so, years. This appears to me as an excellent argument for a "steady state" theory such as the Equilibrium Theory of Reality. (http://physicsmathforums.com/showthread.php?t=131)
However, do not extrapolate my concurrance to your apparently anthropomorphic "God" and "Devil," which, with a few other of your thoughts, are probably just poetic license or loose translation. Your thrust is "Right On"!!!
See Pulsoid Theory (http://www.physicsmathforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=63) on this forum for the answers to many of your enigmas. Not all answers to your queries are clearly delineated or easy to find among the Threads and verbiage.
Please ask specific questions; I, in kind, will attempt specific answers.
12-07-2005, 02:11 PM
Infinity: a symbol or reality.
1. Everyone knows, that absolute temperature T=0K cannot be reached.
We can only indefinitely come nearer to her.
2. Everyone knows, that nobody can reach
absolute speed of quantum of light c=1.
We can only indefinitely come nearer to her.
3. But everyone also knows, that only quantum of light goes with
absolute speed c=1.
It is the fact, it is a reality.
Question: Unless can this absolute movement c=1 occur in relative reference frame ?
The absolute movement can occur only in absolute frame of reference.
But only one absolute frame of reference is known T=0K
(which is impossible to reach).
And only in her quantum of light can move with the absolute speed c=1.
And it is also reality.
But what can tell quantum of light about his travel in the parallel world?
03-16-2006, 01:58 PM
The thermodynamics has appeared as a
“science about the processes occurring in thermal machines”.
Then laws of thermodynamics have been distributed of the Universe as a whole.
In 1850 Rudolph Clausius formulated the Second law of thermodynamics:
Heat can spontaneously pass only in one direction -
from a hot body to a less hot one.
Therefore many scientists thought, that in the future the Universe would cool down
and thermal death would come. To avoid it Boltzmann has given probable
interpretation to this law. It means there is an opportunity for the reverse process,
when a thermal process appears from a cold condition.
What process is it?
Why does anybody considers an opportunity how from
Absolute Vacuum Т=0К hot stars are formed?
* * *
The majority of scientists of the XIX century preferred to study the thermal phenomena not relying on any concrete notions of the substance's structure. They were interested with such physical parameters as volume, density and temperature. The famous American scientist
G. Gibbs wrote:
"Someone, who bases his work on hypothesis connecting to substance's structure,
stands on an unreliable foundation".
In school textbooks, they also write:
"The theory in which thermal qualities of the particles without calculation of their molecular structure are studied, is called thermodynamics".
Thus, from the very beginning the scientists refused to examine the structure of the particle,
its geometric form. And a person who refuses to examine an evident model of a particle,
in advance dooms himself to misunderstanding of the situation.
* * *
Now we know, that the Universe is not similar to the thermal machine.
The Universe as a whole is similar to a vacuum refrigerator.
It is consider now, that absolute temperature of the Universe is Т=2,7К.
It is an absolute reference system (now).
But we all know that our Universe is expanding......
This temperature is not constant, and continues to decrease and,
hence, in the future will decrease down to Т=0К.
In this Empire of a cold local sites are observed, in which
temperature T=0K (Т=2.7K) is broken.
What particles can break the symmetry of Vacuum?
The quantum physics approves, that " virtual particles "
. exist in Vacuum
Astrophysics approves, that " latent mass " and "invisible particles "
exist in Vacuum.
So, can these particles break the symmetry of Vacuum?
Yes. And everything can be created from them.
But nobody knows now, that they are " virtual particles ",
that is it " latent mass "and " invisible particles ".
And why not to set a simple concrete question:
" What geometrical and physical parameters
of “virtual particles” in Vacuum Т = 0К? "
The Physics starts with this question.
The Philosophy of science starts with this question.
The Religion starts with this question.
04-04-2006, 02:04 PM
1 Ptolemee considered, that reference frame connected with the Earth
2. Copernicus proved, that reference frame connected with the Sun
3. Then they began to consider, that reference frame connected with far stars
4. Now it is consider, that reference frame connected with relict isotropic radiation
T = 2,7K is absolute.
And if has the scientific thought stopped in this point?
What is farther?
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