splitringtail
09-26-2008, 10:42 PM
We are suppose to find the Eigenfunctions and Eigenvalues of the following
on the interval 0<x<a;
U''[x] == - k U'[x]
for the following cases
a) U (0) = 0 and U(a) = 0.
b) U (0) = 0 and U'(a) = 0 .
c) U'(0) = 0 and U'(a) = 0 .
d) U(0)+a U'(0)=0 and U(a)-a U'(a)=0
This is where I get confused. The professor says the operator determines
eigenfunction and the boundary conditions/initial conditions determine the
eigenvalues.
Now I am having a problem with that b/c right away to me I would say the
eigenfunction is
Un[x] = Cn Exp [i Sqt(kn)x] + Dn Exp [-i Sqt(kn)x]
since I really like exponentials and this is the Fourier transform.
However, this gives me
U(0) = 0 --> Cn=-Dn
U(a) = 0 --> -Dn Exp [i Sqt(kn)a] + Dn Exp [-i Sqt(kn)a]==0
Dn Exp [i Sqt(kn)a]== Dn Exp [-i Sqt(kn)a]
Exp [i Sqt(kn)a]== Exp [-i Sqt(kn)a]
i Sqt(kn)a== -i Sqt(kn)a --> 1==-1 ; ??????
However, I could say the eigenfunction is
Un[x] = An Sin[Sqt(kn)x] + Bn Cos[Sqt(kn)x]
works a lot better and I can find eigenvalues for this problem, which is by the
way kn=(2*pi*n/a)^2. I really didn't feel like writing all the algebra out.
So, should my professor added that both the operator and B.C./I.C.
determine the eigenfunction or am I in the wrong to say that these
eigenfunctions are pretty much the same. I tried converting between the two
in such away I would get a constant times function of x, but it gets messy.
Because of the converting, I am assuming I am in the wrong.
on the interval 0<x<a;
U''[x] == - k U'[x]
for the following cases
a) U (0) = 0 and U(a) = 0.
b) U (0) = 0 and U'(a) = 0 .
c) U'(0) = 0 and U'(a) = 0 .
d) U(0)+a U'(0)=0 and U(a)-a U'(a)=0
This is where I get confused. The professor says the operator determines
eigenfunction and the boundary conditions/initial conditions determine the
eigenvalues.
Now I am having a problem with that b/c right away to me I would say the
eigenfunction is
Un[x] = Cn Exp [i Sqt(kn)x] + Dn Exp [-i Sqt(kn)x]
since I really like exponentials and this is the Fourier transform.
However, this gives me
U(0) = 0 --> Cn=-Dn
U(a) = 0 --> -Dn Exp [i Sqt(kn)a] + Dn Exp [-i Sqt(kn)a]==0
Dn Exp [i Sqt(kn)a]== Dn Exp [-i Sqt(kn)a]
Exp [i Sqt(kn)a]== Exp [-i Sqt(kn)a]
i Sqt(kn)a== -i Sqt(kn)a --> 1==-1 ; ??????
However, I could say the eigenfunction is
Un[x] = An Sin[Sqt(kn)x] + Bn Cos[Sqt(kn)x]
works a lot better and I can find eigenvalues for this problem, which is by the
way kn=(2*pi*n/a)^2. I really didn't feel like writing all the algebra out.
So, should my professor added that both the operator and B.C./I.C.
determine the eigenfunction or am I in the wrong to say that these
eigenfunctions are pretty much the same. I tried converting between the two
in such away I would get a constant times function of x, but it gets messy.
Because of the converting, I am assuming I am in the wrong.