New York Times: Science Dismissed Common Sense

[astro]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/12/opinion/12horgan.html

Scientists' contempt for common sense has two unfortunate implications. One is that preposterousness, far from being a problem for a theory, is a measure of its profundity; hence the appeal, perhaps, of dubious propositions like multiple-personality disorders and multiple-universe theories. The other, even more insidious implication is that only scientists are really qualified to judge the work of other scientists. Needless to say, I reject that position, and not only because I'm a science journalist (who majored in English). I have also found common sense - ordinary, nonspecialized knowledge and judgment - to be indispensable for judging scientists' pronouncements, even, or especially, in the most esoteric fields.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/12/opinion/12horgan.html

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMV

Someone, please send the reporter this question; "If there is an exception to every rule, then what is the Exception to that rule, the rule that states 'There is an exception to every rule'?".....it is a "common sense" responce/answer I can assure you....lets see just how well Common Sense works in this person.....and Oh yes, while your at it, PLEASE please-please ask the Reporter to DEFINE what 'Common Sense' IS!

Or, ask them to answer this one, in the Bible God States (through an emissary) "All of the Universe is a Part of Me, but, all of this Universe IS NOT me".....solve.....please.....or 'resolve' the apparent dilema......

[cckeiser]

"All of the Universe is a Part of Me, but, all of this Universe IS NOT me".....solve.....please.....or 'resolve' the apparent dilema......

Actually, that's an easy one.

Translation:
Everything in this Universe is part of god, but god is greater than all the Universe.
All the Universe is only a small part of god and therefore "all the Universe is not god."

I hope this helps?

Chuck

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally Posted by cckeiser

Actually, that's an easy one. Chuck

Yes your right it is an "easy one" when you already Know the Answer.

Fools seemingly Most people easily though, well, actually they fool themselves.

[cckeiser]

Yes, it's all a matter of perspective.
Almost any question is easy to answer if you look at it from the right perceptive.
The hardest part is finding the right question to ask.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally Posted by cckeiser

The hardest part is finding the right question to ask.

Not if you look at it from the right perceptive.

All Knowledge based at those levels, Ideal, Ideologies, Absolutes, after that Idiosyncratic Human(s) is/are all that is left.

Anthorpism and/or God.

[Alkazar]

Originally Posted by Mr. Robin Parsons

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMV

Or, ask them to answer this one, in the Bible God States (through an emissary) "All of the Universe is a Part of Me, but, all of this Universe IS NOT me".....solve.....please.....or 'resolve' the apparent dilema......

This is relatively easy. Everything was created by something or from something. Everything is interconnected by the code. This code is present in human mind. So if a person is intelligent enough, he is an emissary of the so called GOD (the code). The universe is a part of the emissary too (man), and the emissary and the universe is all part of GOD. It's like saying that you are connected to the universe, but you are not he universe. Becouse it's something physically different, but belonbgs to the same universal code, and is all started fro mthe same source. Considering that when the person was saying this, he let the GOD talking trough him. Not the GOD who made him talk on purpose. All this makes sense if we aknowledge that GOD has not brains, and everything was created automatically. And at the end human brains were created to understand and explain everything. It's like when you do something without thinking, nad after try to explain what exactly happened and why.

That's why I always say that psychiatry is the first sciense that is the base for explainig everything. First you know what exactly the brains are and how they work. After you can understand what surrounds you and how it works.

[Epsilon=One]

Originally Posted by Alkazar

...Everything was created by something or from something. Everything is interconnected...It's like saying that you are connected to the universe...this makes sense if we aknowledge that GOD has not brains, and everything was created automatically. And at the end human brains were created to understand and explain everything.

...I always say that psychiatry is the first sciense that is the base for explainig everything.

Your introspection is commendable, but hardly persuasive.

You tend to put the horse before the cart when you consider the purpose of humans and their brains.

Also, you confuse an anthropic god that can think, etc. with both: 1.) a GOD that "has not brains"; and, 2.) everything being "created automatically."

You are correct concerning your theory of entanglement. The remainder of your thoughts have little logical consistency.

It is important to first of all: know yourself; thus the importance of psychiatry. However, psychiatry is far from the fundamental importance that you give it. There is much in the Universe that would exist without psychiatry or the human mind. You do not look deep or simply enough for the "code" that interconnects everything.

Keep trying to understand. I wish that more would make the attempt.

[Alkazar]

Originally Posted by Epsilon=One

Your introspection is commendable, but hardly persuasive.

English is not mine first language, it's the best I can do.

You tend to put the horse before the cart when you consider the purpose of humans and their brains.

Actually putting the horse before the chart sometimes might help, especially if you have to reason about something that is way beoyond normal human imagination pattrens.

Also, you confuse an anthropic god that can think, etc. with both: 1.) a GOD that "has not brains"; and, 2.) everything being "created automatically."

Sorry I never menat to say a God, I always mean GOD as the whole materia and thougths produced by materia. Never believed that there could be a biblical God above everything that can think.

You are correct concerning your theory of entanglement. The remainder of your thoughts have little logical consistency.

I allready said that this is the best I can do, unfortunately I can't explain my thoughts better in this language.

It is important to first of all: know yourself; thus the importance of psychiatry. However, psychiatry is far from the fundamental importance that you give it. There is much in the Universe that would exist without psychiatry or the human mind. You do not look deep or simply enough for the "code" that interconnects everything.

You might have misuderstud what I rewally meant to say. I do not say that I consider psychology being the most important science as my personla preference. I was simply making a logical point, tha tsonce you are born, you must know exactly that you do have a brain and how exactly it is working, plus being sure thta your brain is working perfectly allowing you to percieve everything else outside your brain in correct way and amking you understand in correct way.

It is a mistake that physicists might be doing, considering only the universe worth exploring, and not giving the brains the importance thye deserve. Once you know that your brains are made by number and are part of the code that is everything conncted, you might understand something you might be missing from the beginning. If you consider that Jesus was a poet who tried to explain science, you will understand that if only he was aware that he was just a brain, we would be allowed to save a lot of pain in our existence, and save a lot of intelligent people who tried to fix his fundamntal mistakes. If you know exctly what brains are, is not like knowing your body. By logic you better know the soucre of where your thoughts are coming from, before you make an attempt to understnad something outside your brain.

I only can suggest you that if a psychiatrist would team up wit ha physicist(what I was able to try once), thay would malke the same theory that ecverything was created without brains, that we might be the brains that were missing i nwhole universe created not on purpose, but only by natural logic ,that if something was created it needs brains to observe and understand it. which is basically the same code based on cold brainless logic tha tallowed the universe, our planet, and finally us beinfg created. So the whole thing s tha texists is GOD, and we are simply the brains of GOD. Of course only the people that posses natural -neitral brains and are able to understand obvious things like right and wrong, can be considered to be part of the universal code. I never finished reading the bible, but if you do, you will find a lot of elelments, like sins and truth that are elementary keys to the code. Plus you might be aware that a lot of intelligent people left a lot of hints that are abviously a prat of a code that probbaly everybody was accessing without even knowing it.

P.S. I'm sorry my english is not perfect, but I will be happy to try explain with you what might be the uiversal code.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally Posted by cckeiser

Actually, that's an easy one.

Translation:
Everything in this Universe is part of god, but god is greater than all the Universe.
All the Universe is only a small part of god and therefore "all the Universe is not god."

I hope this helps?

Chuck

© Mr. Robin Parsons Kingston Ontario Canada MMVI

God is greater then all of the Universe, (physical) including everything we all know.

That is the answer! as far as (I) know it.(intellectual/knowledge)