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#1
11-28-2005, 06:33 AM
 nathan Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 3
relative time dilation

Regarding Special Relativity's Time Dilation

Time has been experimentally found to dilate for moving bodies.

Motion is relative.

Time dilation is relative.

Time dilates for a moving body relative to the "stationary" observer's reference frame.

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12-17-2005, 07:48 PM
 Epsilon=One Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 2,117
How do you define time?

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 Originally Posted by nathan Time has been experimentally found to dilate for moving bodies.
I find it difficult to understand how something can be found experimentally; or, how it can be determined to dilate when it cannot be fundamentally defined.

What is the definition of time that you and/or Special Relativity are concerned with?

What is the unit that you use for measuring the time that you define? And, how is that unit determined?

Is your time unit universal? If so, can it actually dilate . . . or, is the dilation an observer’s illusion?

If the unit is not universal, why are the fundamental particles and waves apparently so synchronized within their discrete manifestations?

Time requires a “clock.” Clock’s require a regulator/escapement. What fundamentally measures, or regulates, the time you are considering to have dilated?

Is Special Realitivity mistaken, or incomplete, as Einstein so strongly suspected?
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01-24-2006, 12:56 AM
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 Originally Posted by Epsilon=One I find it difficult to understand how something can be found experimentally; or, how it can be determined to dilate when it cannot be fundamentally defined. What is the definition of time that you and/or Special Relativity are concerned with? What is the unit that you use for measuring the time that you define? And, how is that unit determined? Is your time unit universal? If so, can it actually dilate . . . or, is the dilation an observer’s illusion? If the unit is not universal, why are the fundamental particles and waves apparently so synchronized within their discrete manifestations? Time requires a “clock.” Clock’s require a regulator/escapement. What fundamentally measures, or regulates, the time you are considering to have dilated? Is Special Realitivity mistaken, or incomplete, as Einstein so strongly suspected?
This does it. I'm done with this site.

Clearly... a crackpot.

From all your posts, I can clearly see you know very little if anything at all.

Read Physics textbooks, and not coffee books you find at the library or at Chapters bookstore.
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01-24-2006, 07:16 PM
 Epsilon=One Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange County, California Posts: 2,117
Do you have specific arguments?

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 Originally Posted by JasonRox This does it. I'm done with this site. Clearly... a crackpot. From all your posts, I can clearly see you know very little if anything at all. Read Physics textbooks, and not coffee books you find at the library or at Chapters bookstore.
You are entitled to any opinion that you may form.

However, it carries very little weight when not supported by specific argument.

It is difficult to rationalize unilaterally.

I would be interested to know if you have any thoughts about, or rational idea, as to either of the below common observations:

1.) Why gravity acts both attractively and repulsively “at-a-distance” as observed by astronomers?

2.) Why light’s speed is nearly an absolute constant?

Pulsoid Theory can rationalize both. Most likely to a degree that you will not be able to assail.
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02-03-2006, 08:04 PM
 amrit Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: tuscany, italy Posts: 38
time dilatation caused by the density of space

Hi

In TIM Theory time is motion. Bodies and particles does not move into time, their movement itself is time. In a fast inertial system the speed of motion of clock slow down because density of space is increasing. Speed of motion (time) depends on density of space.

In the universe we observe time as a motion, there is no other evidence of time. With clocks we measure duration of motion. On the base we measure it time can be defined as time = motion. The process of experiencing of motion (physical time) is following:

motion......perception(eyes)......elaboration(mind-time frame)......experience(observer)

We experience motion (physical time) into "mind-time frame" that is psychological time. We have to distinguish between A, B and C:

A- motion (physical time)
B- mind-time frame (psychological time)
C- space-time (mathematical model that describes motion into space)

Physical time (motion) is a physical quantity measured by clocks. With clocks we measure duration of the movement of body or particle regarding another body or particle. There is no still observer which can observe all the movements from a still stand point. All the movements are relative. This is the main insight of the SR.
According to the Mach Planck definition in a Planck time a photon pass Planck distance. Time is a movement of a photon into Planck distance. The movement of photon into Planck distance is a "smallest" movement possible in the universe. Planck time t is a number that indicates the duration of the photon travelling in a Planck distance.
All in the universe is energy: cosmic space is energy, matter is energy, light is energy...... Time is a movement of energy, time can not run by itself into space. If it would be so, time would be an energy, but there is no formula in physics where time is energy.

see more my post: time is what we measure with clocks

yours amrit
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02-05-2006, 06:45 PM
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Time is that which is measured by a “clock.”

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 Originally Posted by amrit In TIM Theory time is motion.
Motion alone cannot create time. There are other requirements. Time requires a “unit.” That is: “motion” must be interrupted to create “time”; and, thus, this motion is accelerating motion; and, accelerating motion requires an energy source.

Time is that which is measured by a “clock.” To define “time” the “clock” that measures it must be defined.

There are many different “clocks”; thus, there are many different definitions of time.

I assume you are referring to fundamental, intrinsic time (FIT). It is FIT that regulates the speed of light and subatomic oscillations. It is FIT that synchronizes all the fundamental motions that establishes the resonances that are observed as light and mass.

FIT is defined by a “clock” that manifests as a Pulsoid and its unit is the Conceptual Unit that is a function of its “escapement” that is, heuristically, set by the Elliptical Constant. The energy source for FIT is quite simple; but, beyond this discussion.

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 Originally Posted by amrit Bodies and particles does not move into time, their movement itself is time.
In the “scheme of things” time (FIT) evolves well before the evolution of “bodies and particles.” The “time” of bodies and particles is as varied as “bodies and particles” themselves. Such “bodies and particles” time can have clocks that are as varied hour glasses, the Earth’s rotation, etc.

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 Originally Posted by amrit In a fast inertial system the speed of motion of clock slow down because density of space is increasing. Speed of motion (time) depends on density of space.
What do you mean by ”space”? What do you mean by its “density”? What force underlies an “inertial system”? Without these definitions, saying that time “depends on density of space” is meaningless.

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 Originally Posted by amrit In the universe we observe time as a motion, there is no other evidence of time.
No, time is not so observed. Time is a multiple of “units.” To explain time, you must explain what creates the “units.”

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 Originally Posted by amrit With clocks we measure duration of motion.
Not exactly for FIT. FIT clocks measure a “length,” not duration, of motion; that length is defined as a duration of time.

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 Originally Posted by amrit Physical time (motion) is a physical quantity measured by clocks. With clocks we measure duration of the movement of body or particle regarding another body or particle. There is no still observer which can observe all the movements from a still stand point. All the movements are relative. This is the main insight of the SR.
SR has nothing to do FIT.

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 Originally Posted by amrit According to the Mach Planck definition in a Planck time a photon pass Planck distance. Time is a movement of a photon into Planck distance. The movement of photon into Planck distance is a "smallest" movement possible in the universe. Planck time t is a number that indicates the duration of the photon travelling in a Planck distance.
What is a photon? Planck constants are contrived.

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 Originally Posted by amrit All in the universe is energy: cosmic space is energy, matter is energy, light is energy......
Yes. ...And, all of it is quanticized.

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 Originally Posted by amrit Time is a movement of energy, time can not run by itself into space. If it would be so, time would be an energy, but there is no formula in physics where time is energy.
You are making time too complicated. Time is simply that which is measured by a clock. To define time define the clock for the type of time you wish to define.

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 Originally Posted by amrit …time is what we measure with clocks
Exactly!!!
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